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[wombatron]

Right now I'm using the market anarchist version of the Gadsen flag as the logo. If anyone here has any other ideas and/or graphic design skills (I have none ), reply here or PM me.

[Rorshak (1313)]

It's cool but why not use the ALL logo?

[wombatron]

That would work too, but I'm really looking for something original. One of my ideas is integrating four different anarchist flags (gold, red, green, and something else; maybe blue for techno-anarchists), with the black sections forming a diamond in the center, with "FLL" or something like that in the center (maybe even the ALL logo).

[Ceapmann]

That would work too, but I'm really looking for something original. One of my ideas is integrating four different anarchist flags (gold, red, green, and something else; maybe blue for techno-anarchists), with the black sections forming a diamond in the center, with "FLL" or something like that in the center (maybe even the ALL logo).

I think we should go either for black & orange (which someone suggested for a mutualist flag at some blog) or black & sea-green, the color of the Levellers.

[Francois Tremblay]

What does the orange represent?

[GeneCosta]

http://img152.imageshack.us/img152/3900/leftfn9.gif

Just something I threw up... ...

[Francois Tremblay]

Anarchist Male Symbol, Exit Stage Left!

[wombatron]

Anarchist Male Symbol, Exit Stage Left!

Ha. Anarcho-Masculism!

I really like the colors, though. As far as symbolism goes, it could just be a divided flag or star, or a circle-A, or some other anarchist/libertarian symbol.

[Francois Tremblay]

What's wrong with red/black or gold/black?

[Rorshak (1313)]

Or even just plain ol' black.

[RoyceChristian]

I agree with Rorshak. I'd prefer the plain old black.

[Ceapmann]

What does the orange represent?

The orange is halfway between red and yellow.

[Francois Tremblay]

What does the orange represent?

The orange is halfway between red and yellow.

Hey, that makes sense.

[wombatron]

This is a rough version of the idea I had above

FLL logo idea

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[Ceapmann]

Is that sea-green for the Levellers, or green for the primitivist-anarchists?

[Rorshak (1313)]

Is that sea-green for the Levellers, or green for the primitivist-anarchists?

I don't think all green anarchists are primitivists.

By the way, that is a pretty good idea. It'd be cool to see a polished version of it.

[wombatron]

Is that sea-green for the Levellers, or green for the primitivist-anarchists?

Green for green anarchists (not all of them are anti-civilization nuts). And Georgists/geolibertarians.

[neverfox]

Gold-Black is too much linked with anarcho-capitalism IMO. I also, like some others, prefer the all black agora flag as a base or, if the anarchist triangle, then orange.

As for Gadsden, I understand that that message it sends is fitting but I'm disturbed that its origin and continued popularity is embedded in the state military. It's just not a cultural that I find compatible with LL thought and my views in particular. Plus it's becoming trendy in LA rock culture and that's simply obnoxious How do others feel about this?

Also Gadsden has a distinctly American feel to it and I hope LL is a world phenomenon. If a motto is adopted, then some language like Latin might work better. "Nemo me impune lacesset," i.e. "No one will provoke me with impunity." was used in Britain (again military) and early money in Georgia along with the snake (the state not the country).

If I can suggest a symbol to go with the black flag, I'd say LL already has one. The bull. It's used on the Blogosphere of the LL logo. I designed this flag based on the large billboard silhouettes of bulls found all throughout Spain. Of course this image is freed by copyleft. I'd love your feedback.

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[Rorshak (1313)]

Gold-Black is too much linked with anarcho-capitalism IMO. I also, like some others, prefer the all black agora flag as a base or, if the anarchist triangle, then orange.

As for Gadsden, I understand that that message it sends is fitting but I'm disturbed that its origin and continued popularity is embedded in the state military. It's just not a cultural that I find compatible with LL thought and my views in particular. Plus it's becoming trendy in LA rock culture and that's simply obnoxious How do others feel about this?

Also Gadsden has a distinctly American feel to it and I hope LL is a world phenomenon. If a motto is adopted, then some language like Latin might work better. "Nemo me impune lacesset," i.e. "No one will provoke me with impunity." was used in Britain (again military) and early money in Georgia along with the snake (the state not the country).

If I can suggest a symbol to go with the black flag, I'd say LL already has one. The bull. It's used on the Blogosphere of the LL logo. I designed this flag based on the large billboard silhouettes of bulls found all throughout Spain. Of course this image is freed by copyleft. I'd love your feedback.

This work is licensed under the Creative Commons Attribution-Share Alike 3.0 Unported License. To view a copy of this license, visit http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/3.0/ or send a letter to Creative Commons, 171 Second Street, Suite 300, San Francisco, California, 94105, USA.

ll_flag_bull_1.jpg

That's a pretty good. I like it.

Why is the bull the BLL logo though? Is it just because: Bull - BLL?

[neverfox]

Why is the bull the BLL logo though? Is it just because: Bull - BLL?

I can't believe I never got that until now. Oh well, I still think it's a cool symbol with the right attitude behind it. It doesn't make me squirm uncomfortably as much as the Gadsden symbol does, bless it.

[RoyceChristian]

I completely agree with neverfox on this. The bull has the necessary attitude and its prime colour is black -- the Anarchist symbol. Too many colours on an Anarchist flag is frustrating, even the coloured triangle that so many use. It was designed black for a reason: to avoid the coloured symbolism of states.

Also Gadsden has a distinctly American feel to it and I hope LL is a world phenomenon. If a motto is adopted, then some language like Latin might work better. "Nemo me impune lacesset," i.e. "No one will provoke me with impunity." was used in Britain (again military) and early money in Georgia along with the snake (the state not the country).

Agreed, it's like me proposing the Eureka Stockade flag (though it would have to be on a black background rather than the royal blue) as a symbol for a supposed world-wide collection of people. - http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Prai ... eureka.gif

[RoyceChristian]

Just going to bump this thread. I think getting the logo right is important for establishing the forum identity. Can we come to some consensus?

[Francois Tremblay]

What exactly are our choices?

[RoyceChristian]

Well we have the bull on the black background. We have the FLL logo with the coloured squares or I believe there was some suggestion of just some form of plain old black. These are all 'drafts', but if we can all decide upon a design we like, someone with the necessary skills ccould whip up a better version.

[neverfox]

Also the ALL logo was mentioned.